U-18 WNT Training Camp

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  1. dk_b

    dk_b Well-Known Member

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    Countless American coaches - club and college - go abroad to attend clinics and conferences in Europe. But they come back to a non-soccer culture country where kids don't live with the ball at their feet. We have a sports culture but soccer is unique on the world stage so the US will always be fighting to catch the rest of the world on the boys' side unless/until we actually penetrate the communities where a soccer culture exists (we are NOT going to turn our sports culture to a soccer culture). On the girls' side, the sports culture has kept us in the front because no other country does girls sports as well as us (take Spain for instance - try finding a girls' soccer camp some time). The European academy system that exists on the boys' side (leading to the pro teams) is not the same on the girls' side so they tap into a relatively small population that CAN fit the soccer approach. It is no surprise to me that small playing populations (Japan, France, Germany) result in polished senior teams (or even youth teams). But if we tried to do that here, the players tapped for some national academy would necessarily not include some potentially great players - much less likely when dealing with a smaller player pool - and, rightly I think, US Soccer is not going to create a pool at age 14 and assume it will be the group at age 25. And that's where I don't care - as I said, I want us to be competitive and I want to watch better soccer but I don't want us to try to emulate a system that depends on a homogeneity and a population and a soccer culture that do no exist here. I think the cost is too high - ignoring the millions who play this game not to make the national team but because it IS a great game and the thousands who can turn skill into a college education for an incredibly small pool of national team players. So our coaches, scouts, clubs, etc. are handed an athletic pool - larger than anywhere else - and it is up to them to work with the cream OR figure out another way to get a desired result. They do need to adapt as the rest of the world does but still work w/in the pool that exists.
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    Double post. Sorry.
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  3. Tyler Durden

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    I heard that the Japanese youth team lives together and trains year round. That would seem to lend itself to the ability to play better possession soccer and being more technical and tactical.
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    @soccercritique - I want to clarify that I agree with much of what you are writing. Where we differ - and maybe in person over a beverage we might not disagree much at all - is the end game: what are our goals and what should our goals be? Obviously the answer to that frames national soccer policy. That is, if the question is even answerable for our country.
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    Even the best USA women players never really mad everyone excited. Mia Hamm was great but didn't really make us all excited. Just a great finisher and understood the game
    Does anyone really believe the she believe cup means anything? Cleary not for USA since we tried different formation with many new players. Have that occur in WC OR OLYMPICS then we can start talking. Some tweaking needs to take place but you don't break a system that's been successful. You adjust and improve in the areas needed. The issues are they don't really feel much adjusting is needed....
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    The ironic thing about this statement is that I don't think losing at the SB cup means a darn thing. It is a largely meaningless tournament. The US tried a bunch of new stuff, some parts worked, some parts didn't. Whatever.

    It's you who keeps saying this result means that women's soccer needs to be redone from top-to-bottom, when what was actually happening there was an a real experiment with different lineups and different formations. If one experiment with a bad outcome is enough to push the panic button, things are going to be really rough while the US WNT loses many, many games adopting a possession based style.

    They didn't "get lucky" and get into the championship game at SB--it is a round-robin with no advancement. They had simply played well enough to win the round-robin on points had they won their last game. Instead, they got beaten on direct action and set-plays, while they tried to play possession.

    Incidentally, the "limited American point of view" is an ad-hominem--I'm not insulted ('cause you are assuming way too much about me there)--but it establishes nothing.
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    She believes cup isn't on par with WWC or CONCACAF, but this year, it was important in demonstrating what the USA needs to stay on top. Those were exposed in the WWC (agree to disagree..that's ok), and didn't win because they could muster any goals besides PK/Set pieces, but because of a stellar defense and Hope Solo having clean sheets. I agree that we need to "adjust and improve in the areas needed" but the powers that be really need to do this, which I don't think they do a very good job of.

    @dk_b anytime you wanna talk soccer over a cold one, i'm down! ;)
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    I agree with that. Ironically Sermani "struggled" in a similar tournament(algarve I think) because he was trying some new players and was fired for it. Go figure.

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