U 12 San Juan girls team best ever in Nor Cal?

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  1. GRAMPA 06

    GRAMPA 06 Member

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    Yes, their top teams. San Juan 06 ECNL beat the Blues, Surf Select, and Surf Brookfield, and Slammers at Surf Cup again last weekend.
    Hopes this clears things up a bit.
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    Sorry I didn't get a chance to see that game but seriously you need to think about what it means to be winning at u13. Your team does not play pretty development soccer, rather it's mostly direct to win games. Your girls are bigger than average. Can we all remember Maradona, Pele, Messi are all small. They are small compared to your 12 year old girls. By the time your girls are 16, every girl at the tournament is going to be just as big. I would give a shout out to Rebels Elite 2005 (cas) girls for the best quality of play that I saw all weekend. Yes they were in a consolation game in super white arguably 4th division, but that is where I saw girls who actually get the game.
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    I am mostly pointing this out because I was really disappointed with what I saw in the 2005 top brackets. A bunch of really mature girls bashing into each-other. When Japan and Norway and Germany are all dominating over the US in a few years, it will be because of this terrible soccer that we call "winning".
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    You did not watch LAG DA 05. Or Thorns.
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    LAG? Seriously the DA final had 2 yellows and a red card. Talked to the ref afterwards and he was pretty unhappy with the abuse from the parents too. He refs for MLS games so probably knows what he is doing.
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    Just because someone refs MLS doesn't mean they know what they're doing. MLS is a joke of a league...
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    Ok this is ridiculous. Are you saying that MLS is a joke compared to U14 soccer? That a ref with a pro license does not know enough to ref a u14 game? I'm saying I watch the DA Black finals and it was all pushing and shoving and running into each-other. Most plays were direct. It was ugly soccer and the ref did the best he could to keep it under control. The problem with MLS is exactly the same. Big ugly soccer. And back to the original topic, yes u12 San Juan has some skill but they are winning because they are physical and more developed and playing direct. See my post above. I'll give the Thorns 05's credit that besides being big and physical, they play some nice soccer from what I have seen.
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    or MVLA ECNL 05 or Lamorinda DA 05
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    Those cards were given to one Solar player. That second yellow became the red. And, the red was given towards the end of the game. It was also the Solar parents that were doing the talking.
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    Direct and physical play came from Solar. Teams that play like that can make a game look ugly.
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    Wish I had. Also saw SJE. I have seen MVLA 04's.
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    Thorns, SJQ and LAG 05's played some real good soccer. Some better than others. Can't based wins and loses on soccer at U14. Solar was very fast and athletic but there soccer IQ was limited. I watched LAG play and they play really good soccer with good athletes. Thorns played really well without having the horses to score goals given the reason why they lost to Quakes but the soccer was pretty good.
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    Case in point, take a look at this game from Super Black, specifically minute 38 on, where the score is still 0-0 and tensions are getting thin. Seems to escalate the longer it goes, even when the ref calls a few -- the slamming seems so unnecessary and doesn't achieve anything.

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    MVLA 04 extremely fun to watch, play fast move the ball soccer. Quakes 04 not as fun to watch (get results) but can play fast move the ball soccer if they want, some just use their physical size to muscle and try to intimidate.
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    Yes, 95 percent of this countries youth soccer teams you just described :) MVLA 04 is special indeed. Like a well oiled machine
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    I'mBored - I'm wondering have you ever played soccer at the club, high school, or college level? From my experience playing at all 3 levels, I can tell you there are two sides to the game where on the offensive side hopefully teams try to play possession or play with a purpose with good ball control, and on the defensive side depending on the philosophy of the team or coach, usually teams try to play a high pressure aggressive defense or back off and play low pressure and contain. Having watched that tape I can tell you the referee definitely did not do a good job of controlling the game and let things go way to long and should have called more fouls to settle down the game. Every game at a high level that I have seen always gets physical and aggressive if the referee does not control the game, which this referee did not do. It looked like to me both teams had some moments of good quality of play with Rage definitely having more scoring chances. What I try to look at, are these teams trying to play out of the back the majority of the time or are they just kicking the ball long with no purpose. It looked like they were trying to connect passes out of the back, and not sending it long every time. Being aggressive on defense is completely different than what a team is trying to do on offense. You are talking about two completely different phases of the game. So in my opinion your "Case in point" is completely inaccurate.
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    There's a few more videos of the Rage team from Surf Cup on YouTube. Agree with TTT, appears physicality was particularly unique to the game (or referee) in question. Watched the first few minutes vs. SD Surf and Davis - much cleaner soccer. That Rage team has some horses. I have to imagine they will have a lot of success as the season wears on.
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    That was hard to watch. Broomstick looked like it was trying to possess but both teams couldn't connect on more than 5 passes in a row without turning the ball over. That really hurts the flow of the game. But agree, official missed a lot of calls on both ends BUT he seemed to be consistent (or from what I saw)
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    Did you just imply that if you have some skill, be physical, more developed and play direct that you will win Surf Cup? Sounds so easy. Who knew!
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    What I'm saying is that a guy who referee's at the professional, highest level in the USA, and has to go down to a U13-14 girls game is gonna have a lot of problems. The two games, levels, everything is different. They may be more prone to let stuff slide or overcompensate and call everything. Credentials aren't everything...look at the bozo's that run the USSF! Case and point!

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