Trouble in Elk Grove?

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  1. visitor

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    BH still not posting 2018/19 coaches. They have listed a few who are no longer with the club. This weekend will be interesting to walk around and see players jump from one club tryout to another. Cheers!
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    What are you talking about? The Blackhawks Coaching list is all over Social Media and their own Website. If you don't have a kid trying out there what do you care? LOL #Fakenews #thatsjustdumb #gossipwhore
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  3. EastGroveCoach

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    At best check out the website and social media page before you make a unfounded statement.

    Anyone else see all these visitors throwing dirt at BH?

    If and a big IF someone was "stealing" from any school let alone an EGUSD school do you think it would take the extremely busy EGPD weeks to investigate it? Sad that BH are wasting time with the district and not focusing on the kids. Cause it all about the kids, right?

    Not one board member from BH participates on this site but there are many other board members from other Elk Grove based clubs that do participate, not necessary on this thread but they post on other topics regularly. Guess they are scared of BH now so throw anything you got at 'em!

    Be proud Elk Grove of what you have turned soccer into, a giant shit show for the entire region to watch. Each club in town claims to be the "biggest" or "#1" but there are no facts to back up those claims. The big dreams of becoming the all mighty beast of the district are long gone. Any child with talent and a parent who isn't blind will be out of Elk Grove faster than a double decker tour bus.
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    It’s hard to read, but BH coaches are on their website.

    Is anyone else seeing that all the Elk Grove Clubs are becoming the club they hated.

    IR is now the new FC. Blocking fields from the BH. Rising price without adding any coaches with a track record, adding teams just to bring in money, have you seen their 5 and 6-year program for the fall? 10 weeks for $365, sounds like a FC program.

    BH is now the old Everton with most of their staff being former Everton coaches. An old model, not sure it works anymore. CP, where is the change you promise when you took over FC. Not there or at your new club.

    FC looks like it’s going back to its Select days, but with a higher price. A couple of good teams, but mostly lower level

    United now the former IR, “Keeping soccer affordable” that’s what’s on their website. EGU always said IR had no true comp teams.

    It’s been almost a decade since there been a real comp club in Elk Grove. My kids will be at SacU and San Juan if I can afford it.

    SacuParent maybe. SanJuanParent that works.
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    ahhh - tryout week. the home stretch when parents and coaches jump on the board to put each others' club down in hopes to shift some people! anyone can drive out of eg to play on a b team and pay more money. if there are really any non partisans reading this board (which i doubt), look at each club and their record at your kid's age group. there are some very good teams in eg, even a few top 10 teams! have fun, y'all!
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    Does anyone have any info as far as how tryouts went, in terms of numbers? Larger or smaller than expected turnouts for any of the clubs in the area?
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    I took my kid to BH and FCEG. I'll have to say numbers at BH were some what low. I was impressed with FCEG numbers but Im sure its mixture of different level players.
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    In sheer numbers, it looks like it went:
    1) IR Academy
    2) FC Elk Grove
    3) Blackhawks

    A little difficult to tell with FC as they had already offered spots to all of the returning kids without an "assessment" and they only had one tryout of 1:15 per age group while the others had multiple tryout dates/times. Kinda strange.
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    Oh please! IR offered spots before tryouts too. Every club does it even though it’s BS.
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    Oh and IR’s new hashtag is #quality over quantity and the #most competitive club in EG
    I guess if it’s on the internet it’s true?
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    Great comeback to the big draw club in EG (IR)! You will see the bulk up pointing to quality. I was impressed. Just saying, go ahead FCEG and BH lovers and shoot arrows at IR, then meet them on the field in 2018. Post me your put downs after the season. With the DA added to Sac U, the boys looked pretty hearty too! More FCEG boys boarding that bus to Granite Park!
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    True but FC was the only one offering a discount if you pay by 5pm the day BEFORE tryouts...I mean "assessments".
    I actually think IR will have both quality and quantity. I am not a big fan of quantity but I guess if parents want to pay, who am I to judge. Its really on them. As far as the most competitive club in Elk Grove, that is true. It was in 2017/18 and I am sure will be in 18/19. Still not competitive with the big boys though and like every other club in Elk Grove, they will probably screw it up some how in the next 2-5 years.
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    I have watched mainly older age groups and I don’t see much difference b/w any of the EG clubs, so what are you basing these hashtags on ?
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    The money grab is on. Three emails the day before tryouts or whatever ass-in-mi nd idea they call it now including one with a reminder that 5pm was your cutoff time to save almost a $1K.

    Funny as you look at it the last few years the finger pointing was at BH and IR for having supplemental tryouts the week after since they couldn't get enough.

    Also funny was how one club was loaded with coaches with expierence and coaching licenses while the other clubs were deemed a bunch of daddy coaches. Look now, IR has more coaches with both expierence and certificates. Only one club is still promoting their same 7 coaches they have promoted for 3 years now. Is that all they have? Guess they don't have time with those full time jobs to make a few social media posts.

    Sac U did get a bus from EG so did SJ. SJ 06G team best player (IMO) is from EG and that team is a beast! I can go on and on with the best of EG but why? They gave a one fingered peace sign too!
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    These are the hashtags the clubs have given themselves. When the head of state gives you the title, cool. When you claim things you cannot backup your club looks bad.

    Best in town
    Biggest in the state
    Longest in town

    It's a bunch of blow horns!
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    Those of us who have been around for a while and actually know soccer are laughing about the new "Big draw in EG" and "Quality Over Quanity" hash tags. IR has become what FC was five years ago with the "pay check" teams and filing bogus protest to block clubs from using BSP. True IR had some good younger teams this year but they also had several teams who were low on numbers going through more than one coach, all of which had the parents asking what they were paying for. IR knew their tryout numbers were going to be low so they told everyone they weren't focused on adding teams this season and added the whole "quality" BS which is exactly what FC did back in the day. With BH in the mix IR can't pull off the same smokescreen FC did years ago which is good for the families. IR can only protest so long and BH has CRC so CP and RM can just sit and wait for IR to implode.

    Hang on IR parents! You guys are in for a bumpy ride.
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    If IR turnout was low, where did the kids go? Probably out of Elk Grove altogether I guess. FC turnout was much lower, BH was much lower, and EGU is on life support. We will know soon enough how many teams each club has at the various ages. I do know IR's turnout was higher than last year but growing too fast isn't necessarily a good thing either. If IR is becoming FC which is not good, then BH is becoming EGU.
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    Just one example of a team that fell apart in the winter. 11 players on team total;

    2 @ IR now
    2 going back to Rec
    0 stayed at current club
    7 decided not to play again

    This was not a top level team but also not daddy coach team. Paid coach where all the players left and yes the coach is still there. When a coach is moved out of their current age group it should be a giant red flag. Go look at if you still don't believe it do some research.

    It's all about how many teams you have. It should be about how many you have lost. Either running for the hills or quiting soccer altogether. "All for the kids" so why is it thay many quit at such a young age?
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    Exactly! Used to respect Inter Rage and their grass roots alternative to FCEG but now I wouldn’t touch that club with a ten foot pole.
    Hopefully everyone can find a fit that works best for their kid. Glad I don’t have to schelp around to EG tryout rounds this year.
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    New to posting here but I’ve been reading for awhile. I’ve definitely been around for awhile and to be clear, EG used to have one club, mostly. There was rec, select, comp and all under EG. Somewhere along the way it wasn’t about the kids and now there’s the explosion of clubs. Apparently EG has a lot of talent, people stating that constantly, but taking kids outside of EG. Maybe instead of everyone bashing one another, they should try and pull together so that kids want to play in their hometown. NeAr as I can see from all these threads, FC was the big guns in town but didn’t want to share or play nice and it backfired, EGU was the old Everton that was rocked by scandal and has never been able to recover but to proud to merge with anyone else, IR was the underdog that everyone talked crap on and has somehow pulled through and is a bigger club but still gets no respect, and BH, the new kid in town which really isn’t the new kid but the original FC board that was let go has decided to basically do what the original EGU did back in the day. Again, it’s about the kids, maybe everyone needs to take a step back and decide to pull together as one Elk Grove club together

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