Trouble in Elk Grove?

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  1. Ruination

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    I don’t normally post, as I just get entertainment out of reading others post about different topics. I guess I’ll join now...Sac_Attack is one of the original posters on this thread... Go back and read his post on page 1... He clearly had a bad experience with the old FCEG and that has now moved over to Blackhawks. I’m unsure as to why he hasn’t let go as it’s closing in on 4 years. He clowned FCEG for the coaching qualifications but now is super High on IR. Is there a big difference? Don’t they have daddy coaches and old FCEG coaches too? Not sure. He clowns BH for a tournament in their 2nd year, yet I must have missed that amazing tournament IR had? Why get upset about a tournament your daughter is not playing in. Let it go bro... enjoy soccer with your children.... if they are having fun, maybe you should too.
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    East Grove, you’ve been pretty logical, Sac attack.....no comment. Like I stated before, the natural migration of players to the clubs should dictate who gets the fields. IR was fair to my child this year but my children are going for a more preferable pool of coaching at BH for tryouts. I foresee a mass migration from IR to BH, just by speaking with our other parents, hopefully BH can adapt.
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    Seems like FUFC has a real bone to pick with FC (obviously) and IR as well. There is clearly some misinformation going on. Having been to tryouts for IR/BH/FC it was pretty clear that IR was the winner of the where do FC players go when they are sick of FC. It is true that some players/teams went to BH but not nearly in the numbers that went to IR. In the end, who cares though? Does the "badge" really matter? It is all about coaching.

    The one thing that seems to separate IR from BH/FC is that you hear very little about those running the club where with FC it all about a couple of British cats and BH is all about CP. Personally, I prefer to hear very little from club Presidents/CEOs/DOCs and club politics in general.

    We'll see what happens at tryouts (assessments at FC:)[​IMG]) in May/June....I see more exiting from FC with both IR and BH benefiting. The one thing that will always keep FC going is there stranglehold on the Elk Grove Rec teams. Half of the u-little's parents don't even know there are other comp clubs. They have managed to make Elk Grove soccer synonymous with Rec and Club....eventually parents figure it out and bail but it takes a year or two.
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    Seems like FUFC has a real bone to pick with FC (obviously) and IR as well. There is clearly some misinformation going on. Having been to tryouts for IR/BH/FC it was pretty clear that IR was the winner of the where do FC players go when they are sick of FC. It is true that some players/teams went to BH but not nearly in the numbers that went to IR. In the end, who cares though? Does the "badge" really matter? It is all about coaching.

    The one thing that seems to separate IR from BH/FC is that you hear very little about those running the club where with FC it all about a couple of British cats and BH is all about CP. Personally, I prefer to hear very little from club Presidents/CEOs/DOCs and club politics in general.

    We'll see what happens at tryouts (assessments at FC:)[​IMG]) in May/June....I see more exiting from FC with both IR and BH benefiting. The one thing that will always keep FC going is there stranglehold on the Elk Grove Rec teams. Half of the u-little's parents don't even know there are other comp clubs. They have managed to make Elk Grove soccer synonymous with Rec and Club....eventually parents figure it out and bail but it takes a year or two.
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    One club has a professional businessman running the club and making great looking flyers (picture from 2015) for rec registration, cool names for tryouts (assessments) and even a high end retail location to pickup your equipment.

    The other 3 clubs have been doing everything else that the first club does/will not do. Simple business concept take down the giant or just take a big piece from their register.

    Although two of the three clubs were present before the challenger invasion, the last club started shortly after. All three clubs have been fluid, one to adapt to the customers request. Out of the three the one with more money (players) got more problems. Now the "problems" are what you make of it. Each club has problems but you will always hear from the largest group.

    Give the club a year to adapt and change. I am sure that even IR and BH knew they would get some former FC players last spring but to get another group again in the winter probably even blew their mind. The overall growth by IR and BH was more than they could dream.

    If you don't like boards, presidents and DOC's dont worry they are chasing around the elected officials of EG trying to get their name on that Grant Line road Soccer Complex.
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    I figured people on this message board could likely shed some light on some recent Elk Grove drama I heard concerning a local soccer coach. My neighbor's daughter played high school soccer in Elk Grove and her mother said the girls soccer coach was just fired by the school district due to some activities regarding school funds! I have heard this now from a few people, in varying details, so does anyone "know" if this is true?

    If this isn't true, then there is a widespread untrue, and therefore misleading rumor going round that needs to be quashed. Since I heard different versions of the same story I figured there must be some degree of truth? I left out the school name and coach's name in case this IS a rumor.
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    elk grove eyes back spreading rumors.
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    EGUSD employee has confirmed that he was fired. Details are uncertain.
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    Correct, the Girls Varsity Soccer Coach (Blackhawks President) at COHS was canned. I would share what I heard about why, but those detail$ are ongoing I was told.
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    I heard it was more clerical than fraudulent as indicated above
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    If coaches get fired for clerical errors there would be no coaches. I heard that CRC is now looking at BK operations. Bad timing right before tryouts, if thing goes south at CRC BK will have no fields.
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  12. EastGroveCoach

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    Two weeks away from tryouts, assessments, evaluations, payday or whatever else you call it and some of the true professional clubs are releasing their 2018/2019 coaches assignments.

    Now here in Elk Grove...... crickets. One local club as a "new coaching assignments coming soon" section online but in general it's quiet. Why?

    Expect changes, many changes. Read the writting on walls. Who (clubs) is building up versus which clubs are downsizing or moving.

    At this point clubs should know their staff. It's either bad news or lack of news. Maybe it will be the classic bait and switch move. Would you run a business and not know who your "workers" are before you open? Is the list that bad?

    Watch there will be many high level, high educated coaches with tons of expierence being replaced with hacks that just cost less. Don't be fooled by those fancy words!

    Funny watching clubs from outside of EG announce new coaches from Elk Grove and all I can say it, guess they don't like drama!

    Just wait, more drama or bomb shells coming soon!
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    He was a volunteer coach that wasn't paid for the last 2 years. The school was lucky to have him. He was plannimg to leave when his son graduated anyways. The rumors are sad and false. Attacking the character of a family man without facts whom has supported many of our children is not ok.
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    This is just a rumor site . The fact that PG HS soccer bank account was $0 while “volunteering “ there and CO’s soccer team’s equipment magically “ was lost “ and the bank account there was drained while “ voulenteering” his time sounds fishy. But again, this site is all rumors! Lol
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  15. EastGroveCoach

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    How bad is it that you are spending time tossing stones at a guy that hasn't been charged with any crime? If someone stole money from a public school then maybe police? Nope instead they hire him across town in the same district.

    I have heard this same crap for years and the correlation to PGHS shows exactly where those stones are coming from. It's a good thing you moved from that glass house a few months ago, maybe the stones coming back will miss, eh?

    A poor political move to try and stir up crap and keep families away from a club. Tryout time and it's a desperate move for money.
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    Good Day Blackhawk Families,

    I wanted to reach out to you all to clarify a rumor regarding Rich Moorhouse our Director of Operations and club coach. There has been some irresponsible and false claims about his conduct at Cosumnes Oaks High School when he was the girls coach there.

    It is unfortunate that some would take these false claims and spread rumors that are simply not true. There are some in our community that are using this false information as a way to put our club in a negative light. As you all know, we do our best to keep clear of all the negative dialogue and simply focus on building our club so we can provide the best soccer experience for the kids in our community. That is what we will continue to do but I felt this information needed to be shared with our club members.

    The school is hesitant to send any communications to clear up this matter because there stance is that they are not part of this rumor issue. They never accused Rich of any wrong doing so they do not see a reason to send out a communication clearing Rich for something they never accused him of doing.

    We are however making every effort to get a statement from the school and hope to attain that in the next few days.

    Hope this clears up any doubts or issues anyone may have had regarding this issue.

    See you all at tryouts!

    Super excited about the possibilities that exist for us all.

    RISE TOGETHER-FLY TOGETHER

    Cesar Plasencia.

    Director of Soccer

    BLACKHAWKS S.C.
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    Wow, nice of an "FCParent" to post this. Looks like all in Elk Grove can get along.:)

    As the 05-11 tryouts approach I went digging to find if the 18-19 coaches and costs were posted on-line for the various Elk Grove clubs.
    Blackhawks: Found 17/18 fees but no 18/19 fees (maybe the same) and the coaching page is pretty outdated and does not include the 18/19 assignments.
    FC Elk Grove: Could not find any cost information...coaching shows 2018 coaches so I assume that is the same group moving forward. Did notice they only have one tryout...I mean "assessment" session for the whole weekend compared to multiple for the others. Interesting.
    IR Academy: Costs and coaches assigned for 18/19 on there site...nice

    Why can't clubs post this information ahead of tryouts? We are only a few days away.
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    It's not posted because it's not in the clubs best interest.

    IR posted coaches and fees. Seems pretty clear. Very simple to understand who/how many/cost etc.... most of the coaches are returning. The few new coaches have some nice credentials coming with them.

    Elk Grove United??? I see they are trying....

    The list posted by FCEG is the new 18/19 coaches. Looks like they are adding many new teams and coaches. Expecting a big growth? As for the cost, never. Don't look you will never find it. Remember it's not about the cost, it's about development.

    However the email that went out offering a discount if you sign up early might help. Otherwise you will have to wait and see.


    "Good Afternoon,

    Thank you for registering XXX for the 2018 Assessment Day on May 12.

    I see you are yet to sign up for your payment plan and confirm your place in the program.

    Please note after this upcoming Friday (May 11) at 5pm, the payment link will no longer exist and the price will rise to $1400 per year.

    Please click on the link below to begin your payments of just $49.90 per month before Friday (May 11) at 5pm."



    Never ever pay or commit to any team or club without a clear understanding of what it is you and your kid will be receiving. Too many times coaches are changed and what you thought you were getting is far from it.
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    BH still not posting 2018/19 coaches. They have listed a few who are no longer with the club. This weekend will be interesting to walk around and see players jump from one club tryout to another. Cheers!
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