Trouble in Elk Grove?

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  1. Guest

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    Heard FC Elk Grove parted ways with their DOC and will be bringing in someone from the bay area. Quite a few coaches are not happy with it as they are very close to the DOC that's gone. They are keeping quiet since they want to keep their jobs but we'll see what happens. They also want to give the new guy a chance but it's surpising to see FC Elk Grove make this move after all they have been able to accomplish with their old DOC.
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    When isn't there trouble in Elk Grove?
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    Is eg in for a shakeup? Doc's and coaches sometimes (very often) move together. We play fceg a few times every year (navy). They play a good style--I assume that's the doc's style? Any idea what the rational was?

    This is a nice change of topic from ECNL...:)
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    I kind of doubt it will affect them. SJ, Placer, Blues, and Boca all turned over their DOCs in the last couple of years. Nobody is really worse for the wear.

    Not sure what the best "soccer club" model is, but it seems like they DOC role isn't as important as it seems. DOCs don't really provide direction or training to the coaches. They don't really create a club curriculum. The DOC role should be managerial and administrative, but clubs don't have the budget to hire a full-timer without having them coach multiple teams.
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    I was surprised to see a couple Elk Grove girls at my daughter's practice a week ago. She knew them from ODP and wasn't sure why they were in the Bay Area on a Monday night. Not trying to connect the dots but if DOC and coaches leaving maybe some girls shopping for new teams.
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    Loyalty to doc's can cause a shakeup among the coaches--I've seen it before. You mentioned Placer/Blues, everyone up here is well aware of changes affecting more than just an individual position or coach, but I agree that overall the changes tend to result in minimal change on the field. But I have known doc's who try to establish club-wide playing systems for the coaches to implement. Don't know if eg is like that. The Op suggested the doc change wasn't settling well with some coaches and that's been consistent with what I've seen before. Doc leaves, a few coaches leave, next thing you know a few parents/players go. Of course that happens every year in every club (minus the doc turnover) but eg seems to enjoy blowing up entire club's and starting over. Granted, fceg is bigger than Everton/Eg United/and whatever they had before so I'm sure your right that they'll be fine.
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    I definitely agree that Elk Grove likes to chew up their clubs. When I think of that town, I think of suburban grow houses and soccer drama.

    But, loyalty will only go as far as the opportunity that the departed DOC can bring to his coaches. Maybe he emerges at Sac U and helps build out the girls side. That would spice things up a bit. I can't imagine him competing for FC EG coaches if he ends up at IR or another like club.
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    Here we go again w you guys in SAC. So much drama up there. Utush vs. San Juan, Thompson vs. Placer, Everton blowing up, now DOC out at Elk Grove. Will it ever end?
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    You left out a bunch of good stuff. Trying to whip us gently?
  10. fergietime98

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    Probably not:)

    I was only half serious about eg's problems given our own history of chaos!

    Tj-- your mention of IR got me thinking. They are (surprisingly) in premier this fall. The eg doc left just before fall league starts....coincidence??? I suspect an IR takeover of all teams south of downtown sac. Look out for the new super club-- FC Inter Everton Grove Rage Elk United SC
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    IR has their own thing going, just hiring their new DOC: http://interrage.com/Staff/Director/
    Ex FC DOC is head coach at crc college, IR home field, but zero connection to IR.

    Ex DOC was at Everton, as was many current FC coaches, so maybe a migration there? I would doubt it though since that club is hanging by a thread and mostly silver teams, but as someone said, EG is a crazy place! I could see something like that happening.
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    Word now from friend at FC is the TD for older teams was fired over the weekend too.
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    Was there any change on the board in the last year? Sounds like someone is making room to either reward a current staff member or bring in a few friends.
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    They have a new CEO and he is cleaning house. Bottom line is FC Elk Grove was a step-up from previous iteration of Club ball in Elk Grove but they still can be much, much more. Hiring Technical Directors with and E/D license and minimal playing experience is nothing more then cronyism which has been a problem within Elk Grove Club soccer forever.

    Hopefully, this new CEO can elevate FC Elk Grove to one of the best Soccer Clubs in Norcal. Maybe the parents which run Club Soccer in Elk Grove will stay out of his way.
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    The backbone of the coaching staff was/is made up of friends and ex-players of previous doc. Look at other regional clubs, coaches have USSF A, B, C or even Premier Diploma credentials, the "top" FC coaches have a National Diploma at best that anyone can get by taking a class without any experience. I think that says a lot about the past 3 or 4 years of "building" a club and staff. Nearly ZERO experience on the coaching side, unless you count online classes or parent level courses like E/D, E. I was surprised to see how little experience the coaches have over there, a few have a moderate level. It is embarrassing to think they charge all that money to the parents with most of the coaching staff at the level of a parent coach. And how many comp teams over there actually play at the highest level? Some of their top teams in age groups play in gold and even silver and many age groups have 3-5 teams. What? This new CEO guy has a lot to deal with, starting with, where does he get coaches with experience?
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    Doesn't sound any different than the coaching level and experience at Davis Legacy. A lot of E, D or National Diplomas, with very few exceptions for higher level trained coaches. Yet the club seems to run fine cause the paying consumer is to ignorant to know any better and to snobish to admit it.
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    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    A piece of paper does not make some one a good coach. Looking at their style of play (possession) club wide not sure that peice of paper is worth anything for that matter. They are/were doing some thing right. Unfortunate they are losing some of their better players to another club due to terminating a coach.
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    :)
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    A good coach with papers is better than a good coach without any. But I do agree there are coaches with papers that suck.

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