Trouble at Pleasanton rage

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  1. kickinthegrass

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    I heard rage 04 ECNL team has lost their best player. Does anyone know if this is true and which club she is going to?
    If it is their mid #12,they are done. She was the team.
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    She was the team? Are the other 10 players on a different field scrimmaging with their own ball?
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    I heard through a friend near Rage, let's just say the adults ruined it for the kid. They didn't know where she was going next.

    I agree on the 2nd statement. No one person is a team at that age. Maybe u10 on a small field it makes more sense.
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    I don't think she was being literal, dotard! It's like saying you take Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Joe Montana, Steve Young off a team and you will see a HUGE difference in how they play. You take at stud 10 away from a team and it will show! Grow up
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    So their level of play falls. So what. They drop a division, or other players step up, or sit at the bottom of the table for a while.

    When that kind of thing happens, the other players have to look at it as an opportunity. Each of the other players works just a bit harder, and whatever happens happens.

    And this is far from "Trouble at Pleasanton Rage". Teams lose players all the time for a wide variety of reasons. The team and the club will be fine. Even if the team breaks up (which is the worst case scenario here), the club will be fine.
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    Headline was very misleading. That being said, I can't imagine this player was so amazing that her team was bottom of ECNL. Now best player on Quakes or MVLA that age, I believe that. Anyways, I agree with everything you said. I think the club will survive :)
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    In my experience sometimes losing the "best, star player" can be a blessing in disguise. The team can actually improve after that player leaves. Depends on many, many factors, not least of which is the style of play; for example, if you have a true possession-style team and you have a "best, star player" in the mix, sometimes the play improves when that person leaves because you end up with more flexibility of equal possession across the whole field which is much more difficult to defend against than a repeated attempt to "get it to the big girl up top."
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    Starting a thread "Trouble at ...." because one player left a team appears vindictive. Uninformed/newbie parents could swayed but such nonsense. Players switch clubs lot of times because the club does the right thing.
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    This certainly isn't at the same level as CRISIS at QUAKES, eh, @Mario Fernandez , aka Fake Mario?
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    I thought ECNL said that all Pleasanton players but the goalies go to Mustang at about this age. Nothing to see here. Now if the goalie leaves ...
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    Maybe the movement outward happens only starting at U14? I heard couple of "best" players from the 2005 West Cost Wild Katz moved over to RAGE 05 ECNL (U13) right before Fall League started.
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    While 1 player rarely "makes a team", it is true that most teams are only as strong as their 2-3 best players. In general, the rest of the roster is typically interchangeable without affecting the success of the team very much.
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    That is true
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    I noticed that -- guess they wanted to play ECNL. I don't know if they were the "best" players from the 2005 West Coast team, but the certainly were the "biggest"
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    The West Coast website, which has its own 'news' updates, basically suggested the team needed and received a chemistry change. I thought that was harsh... despite seeing some things that would support the statement. The girls are 12. The author of those updates takes creative liberties to a whole new level... using words like "undefeated", etc. E.G. has some real competition.

    http://westcoastsoccerclub.com/team-news/wildkatz-05-thrive-on-positive-energy/
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    Wasn’t yet aware of this player movement so I checked in with a WC parent I know, he said: “3 kids left for Rage. Kid 1 left and Kids 2 & 3 followed Kid 1. Kid 1 and her parents weren’t getting along with coach, Kid 2 and parents been sort of unhappy for a while and friends with Kid 1 so they left together. Kid 3 left as, according to her parents, she needed rides to practice from Kid 1”. Unconfirmed whether they all actually tried to go to Mustang first but Mustang nobly turned them down because they didn’t want to deal with potentially adding drama (maybe someone else can confirm whether or not that part’s true) so kids ended up at Rage as 2nd choice. So it appears their leaving for Rage didn't have to do with being more attracted to the club in particular or ECNL in general. WC parent also stated that despite losing good talent (consistent with what ImBored said a couple posts back about how sometimes losing a star player can be a blessing in disguise) their team is playing better than ever and is “really jazzed” about how well they’ve performed since the 3 kid’s departure. Everyone has stepped up and they’ve completely changed style from straight direct to pass/control and been successful against bigger older girls playing up in U14 age group. He says kid’s and parent’s chemistry is fantastic now and everyone is very happy so, assuming kids who left to Rage are happy now too, then it’s a win-win for all concerned.

    All that aside, anybody know what happened to San Juan ECNL in first round of State Cup qualifying? They didn’t achieve the results I would’ve expected. Same question for Thorns at Placer Cup, thought they’d finish better. Just temporary anomalies? Sometimes weird results just happens and there’s no further explanation available than that. Thorns and SJ are both excellent teams who’ll still challenge for the top I’d expect.
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    San Juan has some terrific players but ended up in the toughest bracket (4-Top 25 teams). I'm not sure why Thorns struggled but they've already had 1 very good player leave in the last month. I've only seen them play once so hopefully others have input. I felt they had a great balance of athletes, possession and IQ. Maybe there's been additional changes because, though they didn't seem to play often, they weren't losing games.
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    They are 12. Enough reason to lose some games.
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    Rage 05 absolutely benefited from this move and have been tearing it up. The main thing that team was missing was a strong #9 that could reel in long passes and score, and now they have two. Now they just have to keep everyone happy (up and down a large roster) and make sure everyone gets to eat.

    Hopefully they get to play WC 05 in State. It would be very entertaining if WC manages to win.
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    04 player parent is the problem. Rich wealthy, used to getting their way. Rage had enough of it or vice verse. You see where this is going. He will be someone else’s problem. Hope it’s not your team!

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