State Cup Question

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  1. Derek Mays

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    Does anyone know how NorCal comes up with the schedule for round 2 of State Cup? Game 1 of the 2nd round is played at the higher ranked teams home field, and then games 2 & 3 of the round are played at NorCal hosted sites. My question is why wouldn't all the teams in pot 1 and pot 2 get to host games? They obviously did better in the first round which is why they are in the higher pots. It seems odd to me that some teams in pot 2 have to travel to play teams in pot 1, while others don't. It seems more consistent to have pot 2 teams host pot 3 and pot 1 host pot 4. Full disclosure, my daughters team is a team in pot 2 traveling to play a team in pot 1 which is why I noticed this. I'm not complaining, I'm just curious because there appears to be no logic to NorCal's scheduling.
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    The first game in Round 2 is determined by distance. It makes sense, you play the teams that are furthest from you in one “central” location while you travel or host an opponent that is the closest to you in the first game. This is done to prevent a Region 2 team traveling to Sacramento for the 1st game, when they had another Region 2 or even 3/4 in their group, which would make it a much easier commute.
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    That makes sense and it was initially what I was thinking. But I figured at this stage of the season the teams that played better would get rewarded with a home games.
    On a side note, I just heard from a coworker that said her sons State Cup games are cancelled this weekend and she said there won't be any more games played in State Cup for the U9-10 age groups. IF that's true, that will be a real bummer for all of the younger age groups.
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    Back when Norcal was new and had many fewer clubs involved, they got real push back from parents about the distances they expected teams to travel--particularly for lower ages and lower-levels--but even for olders and higher levels too. So the rules evolved to minimize travel in many cases. This is one of the things they got right.

    I'm very supportive of this. Home field isn't as big of an advantage in youth sports as it is in pro or college, and minimizing travel for everyone is more important than any slight improvement in the odds or convenience for the higher-seeded team.

    When CYSA state cup was the biggest, most important tournament in Northern California, MVLA had two teams in the same age group playing in the semi-finals. One had gone all the way to national championship the year before. The other team was the third-team which had made the semi finals by upsetting a couple of teams in pool play and had already exceeded everyone's expectations. There was no way they were going to win. You still have to play the game, and I'm glad we did. The results on the field are the only thing that matters, afterall.

    But CYSA made both teams drive from Mountain View to Cherry Hill for that one game. A four hour drive for forty-ish people to see the 9-0 thrashing which could have been much, much worse had the winning coach not pulled back. It could have been played right at home with in-house refs, and everyone involved would have been OK with those parameters.

    And that is all you need to know about why Norcal ate CYSA's lunch.
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