ID Camps

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  1. keepit100

    keepit100 New Member

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    I know the individual college camps are solid in that the exposure effort there is ultra targeted. In terms of the multi-college camps, I am trying to sort of stack rank some of those. There is a ton of noise and mass emails blasts driven by various marketing organizations which makes it tough. Does anyone have a good experience or a recommendation in terms of a solid multi-college camp in Cali ?
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    UC San Diego and Stanford come to mind. Clubs also do intimate ID camps like Santa Rosa, Placer, San ramon FC etc.

    If your college is attending and your dd has reached out and established a relationship w a particular coach then attend. Otherwise IMO these multi-camps are just money makers.
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    Do the college coaches actually get paid to be there?

    Anyone have experience with College Soccer Academy? They have been blowing up my email since my daughter was 10.
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    There are chances that your kid could be identified and go through the recruiting process, but as @ECNL said, the multi-camps are money makers. She's completely right! Encourage your kid, coach, DOC to reach out to the school before you attend. IF they are in contact then it's better. If not, save your money.
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    In my opinion both odp and pdp programs have turn into just business and not soccer-expensive, sub par coaches that do more harm than development and poorly managed programs.. Both odp and pdp ID camps are heavily influenced by bigger clubs. Furthermore both programs and national scouts have done a disservice to women soccer. Most of these scouts are only looking for players that are either big or fast or both with little regard for skills, specially types of skills that are required for different positions. Unfortunately players that are big, fast, and skilled are very rare. Therefore there has to be coordinated effort to find skilled players that can fit in a program that can compete at international level. The days of big and physical play in women soccer is over. You do not have to look far to see why skill always win over speed and size. US under 20 world cup team proved my point when smaller, not as fast, but more skilled teams like Japan and spain were much more successful than US and US is out of worldcup in the 1st round.
    I am an old person that used to scout for European academy and am very involved in US with youth soccer. . Pdp, and odp ID camps are overlooking more skilled players for fast and big players and putting a lot less importance on skills. National scouts are even worst. Fortunately our collage coaches know what they are doing and hopefully they will save US national team.
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    It's funny, on the boys side it's completely different for PDP. They look for the more technical players and don't focus on the bigger/stronger/faster people. I'm surprised that PDP charges for the program now...its was completely free back in the day. All we had to do is pay for getting them to a place and they'd pick up room and board. Too bad because I thought it had real potential to be much better than ODP. Not a fan of ODP here in norcal. They charge a butt load for not much. In Socal, they only pay about 400 bucks and that's including all the travel, room and board, etc. They have a HUGE sponsorship through Nike which offsets a lot for the kids. Up here, it goes to (or at least it did) go to rage coaches.

    I will have to disagree with you on the statement that college coaches know what they're doing. I've been blasted on here for saying that some colleges made bad decision about players that were recruited and those that have been overlooked. so, I"ll just say that I agree to disagree and keep my mouth shut! haha
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    If I may, I like to explain what I meant by collage coaches doing a better job in scouting :

    Size+speed+skills=super star - most scouts agree with this and agree finding a player with all 3 S is very hard to find.
    Now next thing is were most division 1 coaches understand and do very well:

    To get a good player or star you need 2 of 3 Ss.

    However one of the 2 Ss always have to be skills. So if you want a star you need to find a player that is skilled and fast or skilled and has size..however the combination of size and speed does not make a stat soccer player..
    I think collage coaches know this very well. Now if you find a player that has skill and is fast (or has size) but use that player in wrong position you will have just a player. Good coaches know skill sets that is required for each position and setup their team to take advantage of those skills in the formations they use and train for. In contrast there is no coordinated effort between youth soccer (odp,pdp,club) and national coaches and scouts.they like to say there is but there is not- not in girls soccer and not in boys. You can see the result in mens soccer. After many years and having more kids playing soccer in US than any country in the world, US still does not have a competitive team in the international arena. As for women, US had more athletic players and the rest of the world did not put much effort in women soccer. But now it is different and you will see if system does not change, the women soccer will fall from top.

    Thanks for your comments- I appreciate your points.

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