Girls DA clubs announced

Discussion in 'Development Academy' started by vad, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. psyclone

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    Time for my periodic update of the stats of USWNT players and their soccer career. I have done this every couple of years since I first heard the idea that high school soccer hurts player development.

    If that is true, then at the very highest level of play, we would expect a disproportionate number of them to have avoided high school play, because every little advantage matters.

    There are 24 players on the roster on the WNT on the US Soccer website today. Of those, 20 played a full slate of high school soccer (four years, missing only for injury or callups to the national team). Of the four remaining, one played just her freshman year, one played high school basketball and ran track (so not exactly missing high school play). Only two didn't play at all.

    So call it 21/24. This is almost exactly the same ratio as every single other time I have figured this out, going all the way back well over a decade. Some have even played for both a WNT (or GNT) and high school simultaneously.

    If there is any disadvantage to playing high school ball, it doesn't show up at the national team level.

    Danielle Colaprico. Yes. All New Jersey.
    Abby Dahlkemper. Yes. California Player of the Year (and a Norcal Player)
    Crystal Dunn. Yes. Played for the NT her junior year, then returned to High School.
    Emily Fox. Yes, but only her Freshman year where she won First Team All State and led the team to the State Championship
    Adrianna Franch. Yes. Missed her senior season due to a basketball injury--Dual Sport!
    Ashlyn Harris. Yes. All state all four years.
    Tobin Heath. Yes. Missed senior year.
    Lindsey Horan. No. Was on the U17 National Team as a U15 player. One of the youngest ever.
    Julie Ertz. No. But was an athletic trainer.
    Rose Lavelle. Yes. Kentucky Sportswoman of the year as a high school player
    Carli Lloyd. Yes
    Allie Llong. Yes. Undefeated as a high schooler all four years
    Merritt Mathias. Yes. Parade All American
    Jessica McDonald. No. But a triple sport--club soccer, high school basketball and track. So maybe not fair to count her as not playing high school ball.
    Sam Mewis. Yes. parade All American
    Alex Morgan. Yes.
    Alyssa Naeher. Yes. Dual sport (basketball)
    Christen Press. Yes. Triple sport (tennis, track)
    Mallory Pugh. Yes. Played for the U17 team and her high school team simultaneously.
    Megan Rapinoe. Yes. Triple sport (basketball, track)
    Becky Sauerbrunn. Yes. Triple sport (volleyball, basketball)
    Casey Short. Yes. Dual sport (track)
    Emily Sonnett. Yes. Gatorade Player of the Year
    Andi Sullivan. Yes.
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  2. LivingTheDream

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    Yes agree on every level – Any elite/gifted player in any sport will not become paralyzed and forget how to play after 2-3 months of HS sports.
    USA has no REAL reason why they are trying to implement no HS and oblivious to how much stress they cause on players and families – One of many ways they are preventing a kid playing the game they love
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    Good conversations like always.

    I don't think it will ever be proven within the WNT HS soccer prevents you from reaching the elite levels even if USDA people want you to believe that. I know many kids this year who are committed but can't play HS because they don't want to lose spots in the spring. Tough situation to put it mildly. I also agree there are many solid HS coaches but also many who aren't. I guess it's luck of the draw in regards to what area and HS your daughter attends. At some point for most kids, I think we need to look at quality of life experiences. Often times HS soccer brings that to the girls. For me, they should have the choice to play. US soccer currently has taken that out of the kids hands to an extent.

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    And don't forget Tierna Davidson. She played for SHC and won a couple of CCS championships (I think).
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    There is zero data that supports HS is detrimental to a players develooment.
    There’s plenty of data that says HS soccer is fun for those that play.
    Again US soccer demonstrates their stupidity. Let’s work on getting the men
    Into the final 4 of the World Cup before you implement your dumb policies on a
    Girls program that has reach the pinnacle without them.
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    It makes you wonder why many of these coaches stick with GDA platform going to have to cross this stressful hurdle year after year...repercussions game if you leave for HS, starting spot might be taken,...coaches inspire to be a national coach will juggle a revolving door / leverage game year after year, GDA has zero games during break - headache
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    I have a daughter that currently plays in a DA club and I emailed US Soccer DA to find out about the HS rules as I feel, as many have stated, that HS sports are a great place for the girl to be a part of the community, get refreshed and ready for the grind of the DA season. I even provided examples of women on the national team as well as some hypotheticals based on girls we are acquainted with and the gist of what they said was that is not how we see it and we know better:

    We believe that being in one single consistent everyday soccer environment over a ten-month period is crucial to a player’s development. The DA environment also has professionalized coaching, proper game/training/rest ratio, international standards, etc. Taking a player out of this environment and putting them in an environment that does not have some and/or all of the benefits of the DA model would be detrimental to their development.
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    I literally Laughed Out Loud - how is it detrimental if they are clueless on development?! Even with one of the largest populations in the world & thank god the most freedom for women; THEY seem to fuck it up a lot with all of their smoke and mirrors / irrelevant training sessions
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    Hahahaha. This is coming from an organization that has
    Not won a World Cup and their best players are developing
    overseas.
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    I'm sure that spending a HS season with a HS coach isn't detrimental to their development, but spending a club season with a HS school is a trainwreck.
    My ulittle's typical training schedule:
    1. Dynamic Warm Up - 15 minutes
    2. Water Break - 5-10 minutes, depending on how long it takes for the coach to wrap up the conversation with the other coaches on the field.
    3. Fitness training with ladders, hulu hoops (which are laid on the ground like the Olympic rings and the girls jump through), and mini hurdles - 30-45 minutes (various water breaks)
    4. Discipline of the girls including runs and burpies because they are messing around in the line while waiting their turn to do the ladder/hulu hoop/mini hurdle obstacle course. 5 - 10 minutes (although the coach recently purchased two new ladders and a bunch new hulu hoops, so they are more busy now...he has 3 lines going instead of just one, so discipline time is down).
    5. Chalk talk and walk through of plays (he has named plays...which are impossibly complex). No defensive pressure, just walking through the plays with a single ball, or no ball. The coach talks through the scenarios and has them follow him around the field. If the kids were even listening, they wouldn't be able to understand. The coach talks completely over their head. At games, the coach yells "how many times did we go over this!", but I believe its for the parents to hear "its not my fault!"
    6. Free scrimmage for the remaining time.

    IF you remove water break time, the kids may touch a ball 5-10 times a training. The coach has them leave their soccer balls with their water bottles to keep the balls from being a distraction. The coach doesn't even bring balls or cones to the practice...no room in his car with the hulu hoops and such. We suck at soccer, but I bet we would clean up at a hopscotch competition. Coach has a pretty advanced USSF cert as well....not a daddy coach. His picture is probably hanging in the USSF office as an anti-HS motivator.
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    I had trouble following... HS school? Not sure if this was a cruel joke or not.. =)

    if this is anyone's training (HS or not) I would run (or hop) away very quickly. Our training is, in the end, is all about ball touches and understanding the game.

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