Girls DA clubs announced

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  1. ECNL

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    The da has failed. Most professional teams in the NBA, NFL, MLB measure success with RESULTS. Winning a championship, a pennant, making the playoffs, etc.

    The DA was supposed to create incredible players that would help the USA win the World Cup. Geez they didn’t even make it and we are One of the richest countries in the world!!!! That’s reason enough to scrap the entire program and fire every single US Soccer person in charge.

    ECNL is a better league that needs to be improved. Yes rage has a few very good teams and if they get their act together at the top they could be very good across the bosrd. Blin is set to retire in 2020 so expect changes.

    My prediction:

    1) Thorns and placer will be asked to join the ecnl hence ending the GDA in Nor cal. Crazy to think ecnl will have only one club (MVLA) in Silicon Valley!

    2) Lamo Loses players to mustang as rage players stay home as the club improves once Blin leaves. Blin is a nice guy but he has it all wrong.

    3) earthquakes abandon the girls and Deza forms his own club again ( like Ireland and the Utush brothers).
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    Yah, I agree to a certain extent. I do think that you need to give the mens side some more time. a few years isn't nothing when you're talking about the development and overhaul of an entire system-a slow transition. The other thing is that the academies/USSF doesn't have the foresight to hire quality coaches to make these academies and create a unified curriculum. Who knows if they will ever get a true men's program...rumors on the internet is that USA will go hard after Zidane...I think it would be a great hire.

    1) As for DA, why the heck would ECNL invite Thorns and Placer over Lamo and EQ? I really wonder what settings you have your crystal ball predictions set to...? ;)

    2) Lamo has been a strong club for years and has developed/sent just as many players to good colleges as Mustang. The ONLY advantage Mustang has over Lamo is the exposure and competition ECNL can provide. Lamo has its own niche and seem to be doing well with what they have to work with.
    PS: Has Rage hired a new DOC? I'd like to think that it would help, but until you get rid of all of the current staff, nothing will change. DOC only does so much AND Blin doesnt really do much...lol

    3) I haven't heard anything about EQ abandoning anything...If Andres keeps pumping more players into the national team pipeline (more than ANY club combined), and continues to send his players to great universities with scholarships, I think he can do whatever he wants.
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    I'm not quite sure what you mean by Thorns dragging the league down. In all age groups, Thorns handled both Lamo and Placer head to head. u14's beat both teams twice, u15's only losing one out of those 4, 16/17's beating each team once and another tie, the olders ... Lamo owned both Thorns and Placer. All 4 teams competitive and if i'm correct, between Lamo/Placer/Thorns -the only one team that will make the playoffs is the Thorns '03.
    I'm thinking the four teams will stick it out one more year in DA and dabble with the thought of leaving after it's second year. Hard to imagine any one of those clubs being thrilled about having to play the others 3 times.
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    yah big time..but the college vs. national ID is misleading...there are tons of college coaches at the DA showcases as well...id2, PDP all leads to the national team...or that's the goal. Also, the travel is HUGE! 5 travel games vs. 11?? but yes, overall it does look more appealing looking at the comparisons...lol

    As LTD said, change subs and high school and this would be a completely different ball game (no pun intended). When the DA first came out, Mustang and MVLA were in...I can't remember who else was...when they pulled the HS crap, other clubs bounced! way to keep the kids in mind, DA! IF the DA wants to survive, they'll have to give in one of the two options...Hawks made it clear that the substitution piece hindered development and was a HUGE reason they bounced...and they're right.
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    That's it in a nutshell. The motivation behind DA always seemed more of a power trip move by US Soccer than a true desire to improve on the women's side and improve things for girl players. It's that comparison side by side which really makes the DA seem so nonsensical. And, you're right, simply change the subbing rules and allow HS soccer and DA becomes a stiff competitor to ECNL. The fact that US Soccer refuses to budge, despite how obvious it is that these issues are a big drawback, seems to be based more on a reluctance to admit any flaws (ego).
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    Prob not winter for soccer in Michigan (as I have noted before, a fairly small minority of states have winter HS soccer). But the point is the same. (It is also the reason why GDA saying "OK" to HS soccer means changing how scheduling is done for league and showcases and I get the impression that handing that over to the clubs is a non-starter)
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    The # of league games in ECNL is not the same for every conference. This year the Northwest Conference (and a couple of others) plays 14, a couple of others play as many as 18, one plays 16 and one plays 12. But those #s ignore the showcase games (which do not count as "league" games) - the # depends on the age group (and the # of required showcases) but those are in a concentrated setting of 3 games/3 days in the same location). I believe the time period is the game as GDA's.
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    Michigan is spring season for girls HS soccer, which is pretty typical for the Midwest. They seem to run mid-March through mid-June. So the 6 month ECNL season is likely summer/fall unless they are only going to southern showcases in the winter :)
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    Portland Thorns GDA play 24 games from September to June. Our ECNL teams play 14 games from January to May (girls HS soccer is a fall sport in OR/WA).
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    GDA / ECNL league is finally over; looks like Mustang/MVLA/EQ/Davis has teams in top ten heading into playoffs.

    MVLA 14’s #1

    MVLA 15’s #7

    Mustang 16’s #5

    Mustang 17’s #3 / Davis #8


    EQ’s 14’s not sure if there’s a playoff this age group but went 23-3-6(ties)

    EQ’s 15’s #3

    EQ’s 17’s #5


    Some cross platform scrimmages/games to prep for playoffs between EQ vs Mustang/EQ vs Davis/EQ vs San Juan this month.

    Such a shame there’s two diff platforms; missing some quality soccer/matchups.

    Which age group has best chances for Norcal to win both platforms? I say U17’s…
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    The final seeding will be a bit different for ECNL Playoffs as the top 8 seeds will be the conference champions (so Davis will end up in the 9 through 16 group for the random placement into one of the 8 groups (though not with Mustang as the rules prohibit that)). I hope all the teams (GDA/ECNL) do well in their respective playoffs though it looks like Northern California's representation at ECNL Nationals is not as plentiful as last year.
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    Slim pickings for Norcal Playoff GDA; Only other club besides Quakes 15/17’s is u15’s Thorns (wildcard)
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    San juan u19 #1 also in ecnl league so they will go to Seattle as 1 of 16 teams.
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    ECNL does seem to have it better structured to keep a balance for the girls and their HS. Additionally I prefer the sub rules like ECNL has them. In the first year you don't get it right especially if there is an already existing product that you want to challenge and be somewhat different than (No doubt EGO's involved). See what the DA does in year 2, I am not thinking they will make changes to either the sub rules or HS sports this next year and see how it goes. I did hear that you can play other HS sports, but not soccer. Norcal DA would have had 3 U14 teams (Quakes, Thorns and Placer) make the playoffs in addition to the other 3 mentioned above if there were playoffs at the U14 age. Quakes moved several 04 up an age to push the U15 group from mid pack to Top of Northwest conference and still managed to play well at the 04 group.
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    Yes congrats to 17’s taking home the hardware.
    SMH Mexico had a wall for a corner kick...Paid the price leaving #’s in the box -
    Still kick and run rely on speed to me but best of luck; tough bracket Cameroon, Korea & Germany

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