Girls DA clubs announced

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  1. psyclone

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    ECNL started pretty small, and took only really solid clubs with well established programs. It proved up the quality starting slowly, and more clubs wanted in.

    The GDA took any club with a pulse. And you can totally tell.
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    Expanding too fast = bad business
    Any business knows that.

    If my kid were in 8th grade she would try out for the earthquakes or ecnl. If she was a dual sport athlete ecnl for sure.
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    Majority of EQ’s players staying for the training committed or not committed; most parents not a fan of GDA.

    Think Kansas City pulled the GDA plug like Burlingame.

    Shame to see two different platforms; how much good soccer/matches being missed out.
    U17’s ECNL Mustang #1 and GDA EQ’s #5 (after couple losses in Florida w younger team). Probs same matchups in the younger age groups.

    Norcal missing great games w teams split in GDA / ECNL.
    Should have a championship game w winner of GDA vs ECNL.
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  4. vad

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    I hope the training at earthquakes is sufficient to make up for the non competitive games they will be playing in Nor cal GDA. I think it is....but still.
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    That's the old question. What's better for development? Quality training or playing against quality opponents? While I believe that both is important, I think that learning technical tactical advantages are more important that playing less competitive games. In a game that you blow someone out, you can still have some take aways or still play or work on possession. Playing against better players does make you better only if you have a solid foundation.

    Mustang is #1 for a reason...they have kids that can straight lace up their shoes and shut teams down. EQ is highly ranked because of how they can possess and attack from different phases. Both played at the stampede tourney and tied 2-2 and Mustang won in PK's. great game by two great teams!
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    saying - play as good as you train.
    Every Wed session GDA scrimmages EQ Boys Academy. U14-u19 - it’s fun to watch the creativity / street style come out on both sides.
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    Not sure you gain too much playing an inferior opponent. If earthquakes scrimmage the boys that would be more than sufficient.
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    The U16/17 EQ girls who are already committed face an interesting dilemma I think. Stay with a platform your parents hate (that seems universal) or leave for what now seems unknown. How quickly the landscape changes. The U16/17 group is well positioned to do well nationally. Is it diluted by everyone knowing teams like Mustang U17 could compete for that same title if the girls’ soccer landscape weren’t so messed up? Maybe, but I don’t think so. Nationally it looks already like ecnl got more diluted than GDA with the split. Bottom line, the 01/02 girls won’t get the national competition they deserve because US Soccer sucks. Such a shame.
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    If the quakes leave they could be a tournament team like the USA stars used to be. Go play in Las Vegas, PDA, Surf, Dallas Showcase, Davis, RAGE, Disney Crossfire and scrimmage against local team.. Continue to train with Deza and allow the kids more freedom to play HS. IMO that's a lot better.
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    Neat idea but Quakes can't pull away even if Andres wanted to. His bosses wouldn't let him.

    It's a bummer for the 01/02 group since that's a really good team and barely getting competitive games. I bet their training games are more competitive then 1/2 of their DA games.

    All that being said, they will survive but sucks to be stuck in a league that many don't like.
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    I agree with your last statement. This is not a dig at GDA or ECNL or any one group in particular but for the $$$ that everyone pays, the alphabet soup of leagues, levels and organizations is a real bummer.
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    Agree...! I think the problem is that they thought that it was going be an easy rollout like the boys and didn't anticipate push back from clubs that allowed their kids to pay high school. Clubs called their bluff and bounced. What a stupid decision...now you have a divided ECNL/GDA program where everyone is the loser in this thing. Would Mustang be #1 if this didn't happen? Maybe but doubtful. But good for mustang, mvla, davis, san juan for not caving to pressure and standing their ground.

    The reason Andres can't leave is that the GDA is tied to EQ (dual club boys and girls). IF he wanted to leave he's have to leave the club in it's entirety. I don't think parents or kids HATE the coaching platform. I think that the big stink is a lot of factors. Timing of showcases, forcing clubs to attend showcases, substitutions (or lack of) the way it's set up now, isn't conducive to actual development of all kids in the club. Another big stink, the cost. Parents are paying 400-700 bucks a month NOT including travel. That and playing one day of out of state game. It is kind of savage.

    It's an easy fix to be honest and would call the hands of each top club NOT in the GDA. GDA could say that they're ONLY picking YNT kids from GDA leagues, showcases, etc. I"m sure more than less, parents would jump on board OR demand their kid's DOC to change charter. I know it's extreme but it's one way of "fixing" it.
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    Honestly that would be like cutting your nose to spite your face. Essentially that would be excluding almost half the country that does not have a GDA. It's way to extreme to pick YNT based on geography. All of that to find the 60 plus girls in the country who are the top 0.25%.
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    $400-700 a month includes what? That sounds pretty high. Those fees don’t go to US soccer so it sounds like your club has high overhead or a lot of extras that other clubs don’t include.
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    @soccercritique - I said something like that when GDA was starting to be discussed. If the combo of college recruitment and YNT slots came from GDA, GDA would win out. For those on this board who have kids in the YNT program but not GDA, what would your kid's mindset be (asking rhetorically, not expecting a response)? But I don't think US Soccer could ever do that because it would necessarily ignore kids who would not move to a GDA club for reasons independent of geography (cost, culture, school disruption, etc; geography would still be a reason). And while colleges do want to see the highest concentration of players in the most competitive environment, they may not be willing to be "exclusive" for games with limited subbing if they are, say, a mid-major or D3 who might be interested in player 15 to 18
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    They exclude 99.9% of the players anyways....005% of players make it to the YNT and out of that group, .00001% make it to the national team. if that's not exclusionary, then i don't know what is. If you look at the YNT's right now, where are MOST of the players from? Here's a breakdown (I was bored at work lol)
    165 total number of kids participating in U15-U23 teams.

    CA-49
    TX-12
    GA-11
    FL/NJ-9
    CO-8
    Mich-7
    VA/WA-6
    NC/OH-5
    NY-4
    HI/MA/Ill/KS/MD-3
    AZ/UT-/CONN/WI/PA-2
    Ind/ky/nm/sc/ok/tenn/or/kan/min-1

    Based on geography, if you looked at a lot of the clubs these kids are on, many of them are already GDA, probably 70% (except the college kids of course). All of those big clubs would have the opportunity to join GDA. Why is it so harsh? the clubs from GA, CA, TX, FL, CO, WA, and Mich are all DA. Not sure about the rest. Think about that though...165 kids total...that's .000086% of a chance your kid will make the US YT and forget the average if you're not the WNT. When you see the numbers and where they come from, it's not shocking that half the USA is excluded in the first place.
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    The question is are they missing players. I would say yes they are because it’s pay to play in YS.

    Those who can’t play quit and do something else that does not strain the family. Not all families are willing to mortagage everything to be on the WNT and play for the NWSL and make 15,000 per year :)
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    Of course they miss players. In every platform of every sport, players are missed. I would go as far as to say that US soccer misses a lot more than they nail. Our YNT's are good, don't get me wrong. But I think that someone (I didn't say me) could do just as good of a job picking an even better team, given the opportunity. AND you wouldn't have kids that can only kick with one foot haha
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