Girls DA clubs announced

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  1. vad

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    Lamorinda is in as well. Looks like they will announce more in the near future.
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    They will play so few games, what's a day's worth of travel to get one?

    Not my cup of tea, but whatever.

    Also, observe that USSoccer isn't kicking in any scholarship money at all.

    So few games, so much travel, so much money.
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    Are the Danville girls really going to give up high school soccer and other fun to chase a pipe dream? We are talking about San Ramon valley, Monte vista and Carondet here, three HS soccer powers.
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    De Anza current U16 is in shambles and the super team is about to graduate so it makes sense for them. 01's are the next super team so

    LAmorinda 98 team is also about to graduate and they have no notable power teams. Plus you are asking girls against to choose between HS power soccer at Miramonte, campolindonand acalanes.
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    No MLS clubs stepped up to offset the cost for the DA like they did for the boys? Hardly seems worth it to play fewer games, to give up ECNL or club, and to give up high school soccer.
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    Just Portland Thorns. I'm sure they got in just because of the tie to the NWSL. They sure don't have any track record of developing players.
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    If US Soccer gets its way, it is not Danville girls, of course. These are supposed to be regional in nature so Danville or LMSC or Force should be drawing from far and wide - folks willing to practice 4 days/week, give up HS soccer, travel (it would seem) regularly (or play the same teams over and over). I stand by what I had said earlier: this only "works" to unseat ECNL as the "elite" league if US Soccer makes it a condition for potential participation on a YNT (and the kids are still believing that that is a possibility) and, more importantly, the college recruiters simply allocate their recruiting budgets toward GDA showcases rather than ECNL events. If the latter happens, GDA will draw a lot of talent. If only the former, and I find it hard for USSF to do that b/c it may mean consciously ignoring better players who chose not to participate in GDA, I don't think these teams will be any better than really good teams that already exist (they won't, that is, become "super" teams).

    I do think that having 2 of the most elite SoCal clubs in SD Surf and SoCal Blues (in addition to Slammers and Beach (not sure what else in SoCal)) is enormous and what they do may impact what Mustang and Force do (since they, like those clubs (not Beach) are also ECNL) as much as anything that USSF does/requires.
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    Any kid in the WNT pool or plays on any WNT will move to GDA because US soccer will recommend and they will listen? US soccer has already identified freshman and older for WNT status. So why on earth would any kid 2019 or above would be interested in GDA when the "top" players have already been chosen???
    Are parents that stupid? You will just be subsidizing the top kids already chosen.

    British and American coaches suck. You need to bring in some Argentinians or Icelanders!!!!
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    Bottom line is if GDA hurts membership it's gone. All of these clubs are in the exploratory phase.

    If GDA is for the truly elite, each club should bring in some top level coaches and US soccer needs to foot the bill. US soccer also needs to defrays costs. This won't happen and because of the high school restrictions this fails. How can us soccer be so stupid. Thank god my kid ages out!!!!!!!
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    The interesting part for me is that they got the big ECNL clubs to buy in and they got them to commit money for "full" scholarships (276 scholarships for $1.49m is $5,400 per). I'm sure those scholarships will be used to transition the top ECNL kids into the program.

    Locally they grabbed to the two "must have" clubs, and then grabbed a strong non-ECNL. If they announce MVLA at some point (although it might not be a good time for them with their business model transition), ECNL is effectively cooked in Norcal. The fact that Norcal is clearly a market the USSDA wanted means ECNL is dead man walking anyways.

    Interesting to see if Region 6 gets one. The Davis tournament series could fund it, but their coaches lack credentials...Placer has the credentials, but I'm not sure how their finances stack up (although the Girls cup does pretty well, I assume). Hard to imagine San Juan jumping in after the boys side debacle, but who knows. After seeing the club list, I'm sure the Republic aren't on the radar.
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    Even if they didn't have the HS restriction, kids still couldn't play HS ball anyway. It's a requirement to train a MINIMUM of 4 times per week and play 1 game per week from Sept to June. How many girls are willing to do that AND train/play daily with their HS team?
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    Just to get a sense for what this means for Norcal ECNL....

    This years ECNL playoffs had three different flights in U15 to U17: Champions for the top teams, North America for the mid level teams, and Showcase for the lowest level qualifying teams. There are only a handful of teams at each age group that don't qualify for one of those.

    Norcal had 5 total teams qualify for Champions, 3 qualify for NA, and 6 qualify for showcase.

    Mustang and De Anza accounted for 3 Champions and 2 NA teams.

    Of the ones that will remain in ECNL:
    SRU only had one team qualify...and for Showcase.
    Pleasanton had one in NA and one Showcase.
    MVLA had a team qualify in every age group...3 showcase, and then U14 and U18 had entries as well (only club to get a slot in every age group).
    San Juan had a strong year...2 champions and 1 Showcase.

    If either San Juan or MVLA goes USSDA, the ECNL would have to accept at-large teams to remain relevant. You can't go on with the three clubs sending B teams into the league.
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    I still don't understand how making soccer less mainstream is going to help the overall national talent pool. It seems counter-intuitive to me. Everyone is assuming that if a club becomes a GDA club that means the same club can't participate in ECNL. Not saying that isn't the case, just wondering if anything has been written explicitly stating the 2 can't co-exist in the same club.
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    So what does ecnl do now?

    They have already included boys.

    Will they passively relegate to a B league and become just another league like NPL and Nor cal or do they tell existing ecnl clubs who became GDA they are OUT?

    The latter would be an interesting case. Admitted clubs I have heard applied to the GDA and have done so with some trepidation.
    Why not boot out all clubs that are GDA and admit at large non ecnl teams. This would really put the pressure on club admin of accepted GDA clubs. Stay with something good that has worked or go with something that many feel is not needed. Again membership is at the utmost importance for clubs not development.

    This could ecnl's best opportunity to make a power play. I say do it now or risk being another NPL, both of which could be extinct and replaced by some other league that crops up in the next couple of years.
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    "Why not boot out all clubs that are GDA and admit at large non ecnl teams. This would really put the pressure on club admin of accepted GDA clubs. Stay with something good that has worked or go with something that many feel is not needed. Again membership is at the utmost importance for clubs not development..

    I like this idea!
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    Lol. Let's not forget US soccer's main objective is to make money. If the WNT wins it means more interest, more sponsors , more money.

    I asked my kid if she wants to give up track, HS soccer to practice 4x per week and play again t the same teams in the Bay Area. It was a quick "no". I want to point out that:

    Mallory Pugh played HS soccer
    Alex Morgan ran track
    Abby wambach played basketball
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    My daughter said the same thing. She looked at me like I was crazy when I asked if she'd want to give up HS Soccer and HS track to train 4 x a week at soccer.

    As I've mentioned in this forum before it's not only HS sports that kids would have to give up, it's pretty much any extra-curricular activity, including things like band, drama, etc. The way the GDA has been outlined there will be no time for anything BUT soccer. As much as my daughter loves soccer, and dreams of making the National team, she isn't willing to sacrifice all other life experiences. I'm grateful she feels that way.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...wambach-morgan-brian-lauren-holiday/29665797/
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    Clubs that have become DA better be careful. what if some of the kids on the ecnl squad go DA and not many quality kids come from the outside. You then end up with two watered down squads paying premium dollar for what??? In a year those disgruntled parents could leave. Is the club willing to risk that?? There's not telling what will happen but based on the articles and forum posts I am reading this could end up bad for a club.

    IMO the club will have to choose. I really don't see ecnl and GDA coexisting at the same club. I mean we have nor cal and NPL , both of which are not too shabby.

    ummmm. Girls also care what the boys think. Boys watch girls play high school sports and they become popular because of it. The girls love the attention and plus it's fun.

    They only people that will be watching girls play GDA will be coaches and parents........boys can care less about club or da games.

    If your dd is asexual then maybe she won't care;).
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