Girls college recruiting

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    That's clear but the reference was a different part of the conversation. We were wondering why only 4 were announced while 9 Cal commits were listed on TDS (which is, of course, self-selected) for Class of 2018. The Mustang/EQ piece was something else.
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    For my daughter last year, I noticed her school didn't post anything public until the actual NLI was signed and faxed over to admissions. It took a couple days for some of the girls to sign it and get it over there due to other commitments. The school won't post anything until they get it official. That might be whats going on at Cal. Just a thought.
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    But Cal did post last week. Their social media pages (FB and Twitter at least) linked to this article referencing the four signees: http://calbears.com/news/2018/2/6/womens-soccer-bears-ink-four-on-signing-day.aspx. Whatever the reason, it is always fun to see these seniors prepare for that next step.
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    I was curious so did some research. Roster spot kids (recruited walk ones) do not sign NLI. As the post above said most coaches will give them something to “sign” at a ceremony if they ask. The schools all seem to announce only those who “signed” on signing day, though, so then everyone knows which kids got no money.

    That seems like a crappy way to start your college career and completely contrary to what I’ve heard from multiple coaches - that they don’t tell who gets what so everyone is treated the same. This may sound petty, but that could be a deal breaker for my kid. Missing out on the time in the spotlight and having it announced that you aren’t as valued as your teammates before you even get there. It’s one thing to not need the money and shoot for a dream school, but to walk in handicapped by having your roster spot announced to the world is not cool to me.

    Ultimately it won’t be my call but it really surprises me it’s done that way. Why not just announce all the players who have “committed” and be ambiguous on who signed actual lettters. I wonder if any schools do it that way.
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    Especially a kid who was probably good enough to get some money but didn’t need it so didn’t play the game to push for it to go to a dream school. Even if the coach values that player and knows she’s not your typical “roster spot” player, the rest of the team doesn’t know that. Sure she’ll probably earn it later if she’s that good, but why put the kid at a disadvantage from the start. I’ll have to ask around to folks whose kids taken roster spots to see their take on it.
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    I'll be interested to hear what you find out. I too think it puts an unnecessary stigma on those who got roster spots versus money, because you never know the reason. I can't believe the number of people who gossip and outright ask parents "so how much did your daughter get?". Then they turn around and gossip "so and so got this much but such and such only got XX". So distasteful. I would never ask that. To me it's like asking someone how much money they make. None of your business.
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    Totally agree. The ones I know I know because one is a close friends and we talked about the process throughout and another volunteered the information. There are so many reasons for what’s given it’s a meaningless question anyway in my mind. By this age you can watch the kids play and have a pretty good idea how college will go for them at the various schools, regardless of how the recruiting process went for them.
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    If you feel like the offer was good. It was good. Don't listen to the noise.

    The girls are looking of right fit! Rich families have an easier time. Families with less money, the decision can come down to who's offering more.
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    This is rare and merely ceremonial. NLIs are only signed when receiving athletic money.
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    They are becoming sufficiently less rare that there is a formal process and form. These aren't true NLI's, but they are formal, and real, and any club sufficiently with it should be doing the signing ceremony for these players.

    http://www.ncaa.org/division-iii-celebratory-signing-form
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    Neil better make an announcement then for those mustang girls as roster additions!!!!

    It appears his 2017 and 2019 classes were/are really strong whereas the 2018 not so much. I wonder if he used up a bulk of his money on the 2017’s hence the reason for roster spots for 2018.
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    again, I think it all pertains to who has signed a letter of intent. I know that it's against NCAA rules for a coach to comment on athletes who have committed until they sign a NLI. I would only guess that the reason they can't put it up is because they can't talk w/o the NLI being signed, which means they got no money.
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    Just read an article that UCSD and CSU Bakersfield will be joining the big west in the 2020 season and slowly transitioning over the next 2-4 years. UCSD, being a top notch institution, will surely be very competitive for CA recruits now.

    UCSD teams will be eligible for post season play in 2024. I suppose we will now see more of Paul S. at the U15 games now!!!
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    Heard a rumor Girls could only commit after April 1 Jr year in HS in the pipeline -
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    That's not what the NCAA says, but I suppose individual schools could have their own rules.

    http://www.nationalletter.org/signingDates/index.html

    "Soccer and Men's Water Polo February 7, 2018 August 1, 2018"
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    is this a rumor about changes in when verbal commitments could be made? If so, I'd stand and applaud.
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    Interesting!! Softball has been working on this. It looks like there’s overwhelming support from coaches in that sport. I hope something comes of it!
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    Not sure how the NCAA or any organization can police or monitor whether a verbal agreeement has been made. Good luck with that.
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    How do they monitor the contact rules? It’s an honor system for those and yet, as far as I know, people abide by those rules.
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    Apples to oranges. With contacts, there are phone records, emails, etc. that could be used to prove rules were broken. No records like that exist if a school tells a player that they have a scholly waiting for them when they’re a senior and the player says “thanks I’m coming to your school to play for you.”

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