Concerned Parent, Star Academy FC

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  1. ReppinTheBay

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    https://www.secure-sam.com/www.burlingamesoccerclub.org/doclib/NorCal Ruling Star.pdf

    My child plays for Star Academy FC and we have been aware of some of the issues regarding our club and the other clubs in the area. We just received this link to the Burlingame Soccer Club website that contains a document from the NorCal Board of Directors. The document seems to be saying that Star Academy must reapply for NorCal membership because of these issues. I'm not sure what to make of it, but it sounds like the club is in some pretty serious trouble.

    We have heard that some players are already leaving, others are looking at other clubs and going to tryouts and we also heard that some coaches may be looking to leave as well. We are trying to decide if we should also be looking at our options since this is tryout season in our area and we don't want to be left looking for a team at the end of the spring and have to scramble to find one. We don't want to be the first one to jump ship if there is nothing to worry about, the club says it will be ok, but it seems like there are a lot of issues.

    What does everyone make of this letter and should we be worried?

    Thank you for your feedback
  2. Just A Swimmer

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    BSC needs to take care of their own issues and stop trying to take down Star. Adult petty BS hurting kids. What kind of club puts in their newsletter info about what is going on at another club (one that they were in a happy alliance with just months ago.)?
    I'm not going to say much more on a public forum, but if your kid is happy with their coach and team, I would stick with it at this point. No one knows what the future brings and these things change quickly around here. If you want to PM me we can talk more off the forum.
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    There is always drama amongst the various Burlingame-based clubs, and this is just another chapter in the long battle. (There have been threads on this forum various times in the past about it.)

    First, Norcal is allowing the teams currently in Norcal to continue playing until they age out. So the question for you is, "How stable is this team?" If a lot of other families leave, you may be stuck, but if everyone is happy, there is no reason to necessarily jump ship. What you do need to do is get on the horn and figure out what every one else intends to do.

    Personally, I always have my kids check out other teams, just to keep the options open. The soccer landscape is always changing, so having options is a good thing.

    Second, Star's plan has been more in line with Norcal values than the other clubs involved, and they have coaching connections deep into Norcal. Star coaches are the Norcal Director of Goalkeeping, Norcal PDP Director, and a couple of other things. The Ziemers--who run Norcal--are very loyal to thier friends.

    Star is almost certainly going to get readmitted after they make a little apology, do a little paperwork, and wink at Ziemers.

    So, assuming the law-enforcement issues don't come to a head--personally, I doubt they will, although I have no special info--my money says this is just a very minor bump in the road.

    I could be wrong, and Star really rubs me the wrong way for a lot of reasons related to their behavior that led to this current set of problems. But that is my best assessment.
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    I would have one foot out the door just in case. No one wants to be left behind.
  5. Just A Swimmer

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    At the same time, I have heard there are many outside players unhappy at other clubs coming to Star tryouts, including youngers from BSC (I heard that is why BSC put out the memo - to scare families away from Star.)
    This was handled poorly by all, no one is blameless. And I've seen similar situations over the years at other clubs as well. Too many egos.
    I do have inside info that the "law enforcement issues" are a complete NON issue. A joke, really, but sad it came to that.
    No reason not to keep options open, but Psyclone nailed it, you need to have your ear to the ground and figure out what other families in your child's age group are doing. If your child is a solid player, he/she will always have options, there is no deadline (other than after May being a better time for player movement at the NPL level because of the 5 game suspension rule during the Sept-May season.)
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    Nothing will happen to Star. They will be re-addmitted after admitting a few small faults and everyone will move on. OK, maybe not BSC but everyone else. Always good to keep options open just in case but imagine your kids team will be just fine. Judge on the team/coach more than club issues. Burlingame will never let this go so rumbling will always be in the air. Nor Cal doesn't punish big clubs much or their buddies. That won't change.

    Don't get me wrong, what star and their leaders did to form this club was a very behind the back and sad, but their club will still be there in a year. They have some good coaches which should attract some players especially from BSC who has been ripped apart in the last year in terms of quality. Just get a different color green uniform and all will be good :)
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    I heard from another Ziemer that Norcal is letting law enforcement or DA office take the lead on it, since there are serious criminal allegations being presented. Probably not the best idea to steal the database of youth kids from San Mateo County Sheriffs league. Good luck with that!
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    This was not the first time a club in the Burlingame area has done something similar a thing (those who don't remember the mistakes the Gryphons made are doomed to repeat them), and, (unfortunately) I doubt it will be the last.

    The key is that nothing really came of it, in spite of the legal issues involved, and Gryphons live on in Force North.

    Ziemers are letting law enforcement handle it because they know there likely won't be any charges, and even if there are, the club will live on with one coach thrown overboard.
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    Why does BSC continue to make these partnerships? I am wondering for how long this GDA alliance with MVLA will last? It sounds like another non sense partnership.

    We need one league and one organization for all clubs with multiple levels of play.
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    That's not what happened. And it's been dropped.
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    Good all around advice. Sounds like Just a Swimmer has insider details you may want to PM for more details that she can't share on this forum. The most concerning part of that letter is the determination that someone in a leadership role at Star, "Falsified Letters". This alone is enough to not trust the club and move on.
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    It was the only way they got NPL status and kept USSDA(boys) as well.....but yes, it was a sneaky move without question. Let's be honest though, how many club leadership do parents really fully trust? Probably a small amount. They trust their coach and team first.

    Best of luck in navigating what's best for your kid. The good news is their are plenty of soccer options in your area should you feel the need to move.
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    this week, Star Academy goes before region to present case to be accepted back into NorCal. Word is they need written permission from affected clubs to list any fields they intend to list on new club application and have not received permissions from any of the clubs.

    NorCal rulings
    Database issues
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    and they probably won't. Certainly not Burlingame. Would nor cal actually keep them out if they don't get permission? I'll believe it all when I see it.
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    Let them back in. More competition is needed rather than less.
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    Yup. Who cares about rules, poor morals, and arguably breaking the law. At least based on doing all the reading seems that way. If they deserve to be in nor cal, no doubt it should happen.
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    Except that the "rules" appear to be illegal. I'm guessing not because the Norcal folks are bad people, just they have no understanding that forcing a monopoly on the market isn't ok in the good ol USA.

    If they forged letters that's terrible and none of those people should ever influence kids. The rest of it is NorCal attempting to help current clubs maintain market share. That's bad for every parent and player in NorCal.
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    NorCal has every right to ensure each of its members has access to a minimum quality and quantity fields. If they let every fly by night club that asked into their leagues scheduling would end up a shit show and the quality would be poor. Purely speculation but They probably don't trust Star so they asking others to pipe in.
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    Totally agree. If it's a field safety issue then NorCal should step in. But have you seen the fields some Sacramento and Fresno teams offer up? It's not a field safety issue.

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