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  1. Watchitall

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    I watched some of the West Valley game against Pleasanton Rage yesterday, pretty good game by the way, but my question is this: Did West Valley bring guest players again to the Sporting tourney? Didn't they do the same thing last year? If I am mistaken, I apologize, but it looked like they had 3 or 4 guest players.
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    No guest players - I believe they added 4 new girls this spring.
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    Watched Vision against Rage, CV Earthquakes, and WC Fury while I was marshaling- solid team play and ball possession. The final was 3-0 and I didn't have to escort any WC parents out ----good day :)
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    Sorry jake Ryan spoke to one of your parents on the sideline yes you did add 3 players but also lost 3 players and yes they did confirm you had guest players from other teams. That was confirmed from another parent who plays with one of the players on De Anza. Remember soccer world is a small world everybody knows everybody.
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    WC parents behaving? Now I've heard it all.
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    It's funny how WV has to bring guest players to every tournament they go to. I used to believe that WV was one of the dominant teams in NorCal, but now, not so much. Yes, I know they are number one, but again, if you can't win with your own team or at least guest players from your own club, it shows me that you can't coach. You can't be dominant if you can't win with your own team or even guest players from your own club. Not impressed with WV or their coach, but I am impressed with the coaches daughter, the midfielder, she is extremely talented. I bet she would be twice as good if she played for another team.

    I would say DeAnza is pretty dominant, but when you go recruit players from three leagues to make a team, again.... not so much, but at least all of them are actually registered with DeAnza. They are speedy and posses good ball control. Their small sided game is great and they beat a lot of teams on pure speed.

    West Coast, they don't play the prettiest of soccer and their parents are a little out of hand, but they get it done with speed and physicality and use their own players.

    CV Mercury or Quakes or whatever the hell they are calling themselves these days.... they are inconsistent. They beat WV one week and loose to Diablo the next. Not sure what's going on with that team. One question I do have for whoever is listening... why is there such animosity between WV and CV. Don't know if it is true or not, but I did hear some of the CV parents saying that WV can't beat them unless they have guest players and that the only times WV has beat them was at Sporting last year and this year. Is that actually true?

    Rage, they play quality soccer. Fast and somewhat physical and I like the small ball approach.
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    I agree about De anza . They move the ball well and are fun to watch. CV is one of those teams when they are on they are hard to beat but they are inconsistent. West Coast understands who they are great athletes who try to outrun you and get it done 90 percent of the time.

    West Valley is a good team don't understand why they need to use guest players. Coach should have a little more faith in his program instead of bringing players from outside.
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    How is West Valley number one? I recall Placer winning State Cup in February. Cross Regionals are in a couple weeks we will see who the top contenders are.

    Players from different regions will travel outside their areas to get the best coaching and training. Nothing wrong with that as long as the parents and family are willing to do so.

    Last fall WV was supposed to play CV and word was that CV didn't show up so the game never happened. I don't know the background or the reason but I know that ever since Milpitas merged with CV they haven't continued their winning ways. Both coaches on WV and CV are parents to dd's on their teams not sure what the animosity or bad blood is.

    I haven't seen Rage play this year but last year I thought they were one of the teams I least liked watching play. Lots of direct long balls to the wings, very physical and very little passing. Maybe they changed but as long as I can remember this is how they have played.
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    West Valley is number one because they play in tourneys worth more points than Placer. State Cup doesn't mean anything... it's purely based on points. Not sure what you mean by players will travel outside their areas... I know players will do that... there are actually a lot of players that will do that.
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    Hey Fastfootskills we all know players travel to play for teams outside their area I think watchitall was questioning the guest playing by West Valley for tournaments just to boost their pts on gotsoocer. I guess our team in the championship game of the Sporting suffered because of West Valley guest players.

    About CV not showing up to a game we all know you just cannot show up to a game because you feel like it there are rules in place to not allow that. So stop spreading rumors unless you know for a fact.
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    Well I think winning with your actual team and not guest players does mean something. They obviously have had trouble winning this spring with their NorCal rostered team. I'm not sure they would win those Tournanets if they didn't have those guests so is the team really number one or do the guest players make them number 1?

    I was referring to your statement about Force recruiting from "three leagues" players can travel out of their regions to play and there is nothing wrong with that is all I was stating.
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    Well I think winning with your actual team and not guest players does mean something. They obviously have had trouble winning this spring with their NorCal rostered team. I'm not sure they would win those Tournanets if they didn't have those guests so is the team really number 1 or do the guest players make them number 1?

    I was referring to your statement about Force recruiting from "three leagues" players can travel out of their regions to play and there is nothing wrong with that is all I was stating.
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    I was told by parents from west valley that they didn't show. You can look on the fall league and see no score entered and the game was never played in not spreading rumors.
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    Fastfootskills.... what has been said around the soccer community is that WV changed the game date and time two days before the game was to be played because his daughter had ODP. Apparently CV couldn't make the game work and the game was never played. Again...it's all hearsay unless it comes from WV or CV coaches... this is just what I heard from a DeAnza parent.
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    No guest players for WV. They have a roster with 18 players. Why can't a team win and be given credit? They are back to back champions. Let's just give them credit.
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    Soccerwatcher... I think the problem is that there were different parents talking this weekend about guest players being on the WV team, and some of them happened to be the guest player families themselves. No one is taking the win from them or saying they cheated in any way.... a win is a win. I think if WV wants full credit, they need to beat teams like DeAnza, CV, WC, Pleasanton, etc.... with their regular roster.

    I think the consensus is that people would like to see WV win big tourneys without the use of guest players or at least guest players from within their own club. It shows they are building a program and building players and WV doesn't seem to do that.

    The soccer world is very small and it is hard for a team to say they did or didn't use guest players when everybody knows everybody and who plays for who.
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    those "guest player parents themselves" don't exist because I'm telling you 100% no doubt that WV did not have guest players for SGI! They have beat those teams during state cup and league when you can't have guest players. your giving way too much credit to guest players. 1 player will not make that much of a difference on a team to win a whole tournament. Maybe the coach has his reasons for having guest players.
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    Soccerwatcher... it's apparent you are affiliated with WV, but unless you are the coach himself and are going to tell everyone that was at the tournament this weekend and saw the guest players and some of their family members.... everyone that was there knows there were guests. It's not a big deal, we would just like to see a tourney win without guests...that's all.

    Also, from doing some simple research it appears WV hasn't beaten CV in league or tournaments except last year at Sporting when again there were guest players. Yes, one player does make a difference and three or four make a big difference, but more importantly if you think one player doesn't make a difference why pick up that guest player?

    "Maybe the coach has his reasons for having guest players." So did they or didn't they have guest players?
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    "State Cup doesn't mean anything"... is this because WV didn't make it to the Finals, losing to WC... Well the top two teams do receive an invite to the "BEST OF THE BEST TOURNAMENT known as SURF CUP In San Diego", so it must mean a little something. Interesting..
    I recall having this same discussion last year regarding WV using guest players during the Placer Girls Cup. Interesting that this conversation continues to come up every time after tournaments. WV is a solid team withe some very talented players and I sure hope the coach figures out how to win with his NorCal rostered team.

    Looking forward to the upcoming Cross Regionals in Davis this June.. Should be some quality soccer!

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