Acceptance to ECNL

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  1. Derek Mays

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    Maybe there is an easy answer out there that I haven't seen, but what is the criteria for a club to be accepted to play in the ECNL? Is it a very selective process and/or cost a lot of money to be a member? It seems like there are such good clubs in the Sacramento/Bay area and I was surprised by how few are a part of the ECNL. If they had double the number of teams, it could provide the same quality of games with half the travel cost?
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    Travel is explicitly and intentionally designed into ECNL. Getting into ECNL is very selective.

    "Elite Clubs National League"

    Elite: You have to be an elite club on the national level, not elite in your city or geography. This isn't like the title inflation that plagues Norcal Super-platinum-double-elite-the-bestest divisions. They really do mean, "Can compete at National Level events."

    National: They intend for it to be a national league. Sure, you have your conferences, but those are multi-state, and if you win them, you move on to national level events (and even if you don't, you are expected to attend national tournaments.) If travel is a concern, then you shouldn't be playing in a national league.

    The goal is to have relatively few destination clubs within a geographic area, precisely so that the playing level isn't diluted. The theory is that the strongest players, and only the strongest players, will play for the teams.
    Only relatively few players need to travel nationally to get good games. ECNL is designed to get those players onto the same teams, so they can go together. Many more would do well to travel only regionally. And, many, many more would do well to stay within a day's drive.

    Doubling the number of teams would seriously reduce the level of play. You can see that in GDA.

    In my opinion, even ECNL is slightly too large for its goals, but it has to have enough clubs to be viable.
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    As to the precise criteria, you can find an application on the ecnl web site.

    Officially, you just a bunch of coaching licenses, strong teams in all age groups, good fields, and a proven track record. But they organization really does want to create destination clubs, so adding more in an area already covered is against their goals.
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    I heard that there was a possibility that the San Jose Surf was thinking about joining ECNL. Has anyone heard if this is true?
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    I have my doubts about your rumor since San Jose Surf is an affiliate of San Diego Surf who lost ECNL membership recently.
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    Well, San Jose Surf can certainly be thinking about applying, but it seems unlikely to me that they would be accepted. ECNL has a strong preference to be selective in the clubs it adds, and there is already good coverage in the Bay Area, and particularly San Jose with DeAnza Force in that neighborhood.

    But the soccer world changes all the time, you never know.
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    There is no more ECNL in San Jose area. Thorns DA only. MVLA is the closest but SJ Surf won't get it based on merit. If a club like Marin can't get in, surf shouldn't but it's about who you know as well :) Giving someone ECNL in San Jose area again wouldn't be unfair but not sure what club would deserve it.
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    MVLA isn't that far from San Jose as far as ECNL is concerned.
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    Yup. I bet no one gets added unless someone drop/removed.
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    Well, how many non elite clubs are in DA or ECNL? A handful at least but I agree with what you're saying.

    I think Marin is a "good" club but not elite. Now if you bring all the talent from surrounding areas like Mill valley, Novato, Marin, San Francisco, Petaluma, etc it can become much stronger. There was a big geographic gap between MVLA and SRU that could use another club. I don't think there are many top clubs left outside of DA and ECNL. Most good clubs are like Marin. Some very good age groups and some just decent levels. Time will tell how they do at the ECNL level. Certainly a learning curve especially since ECNL status was given after tryouts. I imagine some other clubs may deserve it more on merit but geographically it seemed to make some sense.
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    $1.13M average median home value in Marin County - ideal candidate for a Pay to Play sport away from other PTP clubs
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    LOL great point. Didn't think about that...95% of the kids on the WNT come from white collar families. Let that sink in...
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    Great point indeed. Honestly, I'm not sure how a community that's not reasonably well can afford DA or ECNL travel as a club. I wish DA/ECNL would make public who actually applies for their leagues each year. I'd be curious to see who actually applies on a yearly basis
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    Marin is not an elite club. Perhaps Santa Rosa is on the way out?
    Marin would draw SF, Marin, mill valley, maybe even out to Santa Rosa.
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    Elite in a league or club's name is typically misleading :) Marin will struggle the first year and then needs to hope to attract more talent from areas you mentioned the 2nd year.
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    is it a bad surface? Is it grass or turf?

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