2017 05G Norcal State Cup

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  1. MrSmith

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    Figure a new thread to discuss anything state cup related was in order to not continue to use the Fall 17 prediction thread...

    To start out here is the top 32 in their groups with the pot (seed) they came from with Youth Soccer Rankings Score (which is the best unbiased view of team's strength available... yes it lags recent results, yes it may not cover every competition (covers most), yes it may not handle short games and blow outs as one would like but overall it seems to be pretty reasonable for team strength, barring key player movement or injury). The scores were taken all that the same time but will not be the same as they are this moment (as scores continually change).

    Will intersting to see how they do the 3rd round as they do not have a real ranking. Will it be pots again or will they rank based on 2nd round results?

    (seems this forum does support table add ons so sorry for the formatting)

    Grp Pot Team YSR Score
    A 1 San Jose Earthquakes Pre-DA 05G 33.62
    A 2 Union Sacramento FC Union FC 05G 30.49
    A 3 Clovis Crossfire 05G Blue 30.19
    A 4 Santa Clara Sporting 05G Green 28.41
    B 1 Davis Legacy 05 Red 31.28
    B 2 Ajax United 05G Green 31.54
    B 3 MVLA 05G United White 28.93
    B 4 Placer United 05G Black 30.10
    C 1 MVLA 05G United Blue 32.17
    C 2 SF United FC SF United G05 Pride 29.78
    C 3 California Cougars 31.14
    C 4 San Juan SC Spirits 05 Blue 30.24
    D 1 West Coast Soccer Wild Katz 05 32.83
    D 2 MVLA 06G Roma Blue 30.95
    D 3 Marin FC G05Blue 29.72
    D 4 San Juan SC Spirits 05 ECNL 32.80
    E 1 Mustang SC 05 ECNL 32.42
    E 2 Pleasanton RAGE 05 ECNL 32.63
    E 3 Force North 05G I 30.65
    E 4 Atletico Santa Rosa Sevilla 28.81
    F 1 California Odyssey SC COSC 05GR1 (Torossian) 31.92
    F 2 SF Vikings SFVSC G05 Ravens Red Elite 29.51
    F 3 Folsom Lake Earthquakes Premier '05G 1 30.31
    F 4 Lamorinda United 05 Navy - Pre-Academy 30.31
    G 1 Placer United 05G Gold 33.15
    G 2 Santa Rosa United 05G Gold 32.20
    G 3 Livermore Fusion SC 05G Maroon 29.93
    G 4 EC Real Salinas Leoncitas 05 30.30
    H 1 California Thorns U13 Academy 32.41
    H 2 Mustang SC 05G Elite 30.37
    H 3 Diablo FC 05G Premier 31.31
    H 4 Central California Soccer Alliance 05G Black 29.99
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    Little time (or distraction) to do some quick math. Average YSR/by group (recognizing that averages lie):

    A - 30.68
    B - 30.46
    C - 30.83
    D - 31.58
    E - 31.13
    F - 30.51
    G - 31.40
    H - 31.02

    Strength of group: D, G, E, H, C, A ,F, B
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    Looks like B, D, and E flights have couple of closely matched teams. So, 3 teams out of the YSR Top 8 rankings will not go into State level 3rd round if they take the 1st team out of each flight like they've usually done in years past.
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    Yes... based on YSR. These look like the "groups of death" for one of these teams with less than a goal between the teams...

    B
    Davis Legacy 05 Red 31.28
    Ajax United 05G Green 31.54

    E
    Mustang SC 05 ECNL 32.42
    Pleasanton RAGE 05 ECNL 32.63

    G
    Placer United 05G Gold 33.15
    Santa Rosa United 05G Gold 32.20

    D could be tough (though not sure if YSR or SC Rd1 results are a better measure of San Juan SC)
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    So that is winners of each group play....

    A-H
    ——
    D-E

    -—-

    C-F
    ——
    B-G

    Seconds play for next 9-16, 3rds for 17-24, etc
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    Looks like the first game was played this weekend strange the results are shown but the points did not get updated.

    Big weekend next week, should be #1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3 so first chance to see a surprise at 1v4 but the 2v3 should like have many close games.
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    Anyone knows where games 2 and 3 for round 2 will be located?
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    The calendar here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iKApy7KbvwPWzSwQTyng0WdlY/edit#gid=1328009014) says

    Mary Grogan-Modesto, Fallon-Dublin, Alden-Castro Valley

    My assumption (completely an assumption) is that either it is simply by bracket and age or they look at the basic location of the teams and try to find the closest field, but that would be a bunch of work so more likely just by age group and bracket... 05s/u13 are playing 11v11 so that may determine the site.

    Fallon has 2 11v11 turf fields it appears
    Mary Grogan has 3 turf and 1 grass 11v11 fields
    Alden has 2 11v11 turf fields
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    Pray you're not at Alden. I like to call it spray painted concrete.
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    FYI Fallon has four and they are very nice/new. Best of this bunch for sure.
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    Mary Grogan has 7 11v11 fields 3 turf and 4 grass.
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    So much for me using google maps images to count fields =( Fail =)
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    If it is small sided we can do 12.
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    Big round 2 game day... will be interesting. Just hope scores are actually posted

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